In a recent episode of The Joe Rogan Show, Joe Rogan and guest Bill Maher discussed the impacts of defunding the police in cities like Minneapolis and Austin.
The conversation touched on the rise in crime that followed the reduction of police force, the private hiring of officers by affluent citizens, and the general safety concerns in major cities.
Maher pointedly brought up the lack of media coverage on black on black crime in Chicago, suggesting that crime within the African American community is underreported.
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Key Takeaways:
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– Maher criticized the liberal perspective that seems to downplay the impacts of crime, pointing out that reduced policing led to a rise in crime in areas like Minneapolis.
– After defunding, Austin had to refund its police force due to an increase in crime, a move that Rogan supported given the city’s evident safety issues, especially in areas like 6th Street.
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– Wealthy residents in cities with reduced police presence often hire private security to ensure their safety, leaving less affluent neighborhoods vulnerable.
– Chicago is experiencing escalating crime rates, particularly within the African American community. The media, according to Maher, does not adequately report crimes within the community, leading to the comment on the perceived value of black lives depending on the perpetrator.
– Both Rogan and Maher expressed concerns over the deteriorating safety conditions in major cities, emphasizing the need for effective policing.
Transcript:
MAHER: “Liberalism was never ‘Shoplifting is progressive.’”
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ROGAN: “Yeah.”
MAHER: “And we weren’t interested in legalizing shoplifting, or I guess we should call it justice shopping. But, you know, in Minnesota, for example, I think it was Minneapolis, after the George Floyd murder and the riots, I think there was a movement to disband a lot of the police, and they did. I think a lot of the police were let go or somehow the police force was a lesser force than it was. And what happened was, of course, crime went up in certain areas, and a lot of the officers who had been fired or let go or quit for whatever reason, they weren’t on the force anymore, they were hired as private security. By who? The rich people who could afford to do it. So their neighborhood stayed safe. So that wasn’t exactly, I thought, a victory for liberalism.”
ROGAN: “No, it’s the opposite.”
MAHER: “Yeah.”
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ROGAN: “It’s unfortunate. Austin defunded the police and then refunded it, and refunded it by far more than they defunded it, because they just course corrected. They went, ‘Okay, this is not working. We have to do something to fix it.’Which makes me very happy, because I was really shocked that they wanted to do that because there’s a lot of crime. And where my club is, on 6th Street, that’s a wild place. 6th Street gets wild and there’s a lot of crime there. And there’s a good police presence there and we have a lot of police at the club. We hire off duty cops to work the club and a lot of security. We want to make it as safe as possible. But the streets in the city, like, you know, from pandemic on, it’s just — it’s not good. You know, it’s sketchy and I’m glad they recognized it and did something. Because so many places just aren’t course-correcting.”
MAHER: “Well, Chicago, I mean, not — not just the places where — I mean, murders have been happening way out of control in Chicago among the African American community for far too long and not really reported in the same — in the way that they should be. It’s amazing how black lives don’t seem to matter when they’re taken by black lives. But, I mean, now Chicago — my friends who live there say it’s not safe anywhere.”
ROGAN: “Yeah, it’s very sketchy. Very sketchy.”
MAHER: “And that’s Chicago.”
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